Pam and Sarah: Covert Stuttering (Episode 63)
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Eric and Peter interview Pam Mertz and Sarah Watson Bell about covert stuttering. We discuss many aspects of covert stuttering. We attempt to define it, talk about strategies to become more open and overt with stuttering, our earliest memories of covert stuttering and much more. Pam is pictured to the left and Sarah to the right. 
- I'm Not Hiding Anymore by Rob Bloom
- My Life as a Covert Stutterer by Barbara Wimpee
- Passing as Fluent by Tarry Dartnall
- I've Got a Secret -- And It's Scaring Me to Death! (The Story of a Covert Stutterer) by Steve Hood and Chris Roach
- The Stuttering Paradox: A Trap To Full Acceptance. Some Journal Based Thoughts From A Covert Stutterer by Lieven Grommen
To see more videos of Pam Mertz go to the StutterTalk YouTube page.
Music used, in the order played, is Yo La Tengo during the intro, Lucinda Williams, Guided By Voices, David Bowie, the Long Blondes, and Eric's band Higgins and their song "Charly" in the outro.










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